The Trench Reynolds Report

All Crime Is Personal

It just goes to show you that I am not the authority on the subject nor am I omniscient. This is a story that has eluded my notice for the past year and a half.

On Sept 24, 2003, 15-year-old John Jason McLaughlin shot two of his fellow students at Ricori High School in Cold Spring Minnesota. The victims were Aaron Rollins, 17, who was shot in the neck and died later that day in the hospital and the intended target Seth Bartell, 14, who was shot in the chest and head. Bartell held on for 16 days before passing away.

Here’s how the suspect was originally described back in 2003…

But lately, those who know McLaughlin said, he began to change. He seemed more withdrawn and didn’t want to come out to play. Some described him as intensely shy and self-conscious about his severe acne.

“It really was this summer that things seemed different,” Jess Phillips, 12, who lives about a block away, told the Star Tribune.

Neil Wackwitz, 15, who was perhaps his closest friend in the neighborhood, also told the newspaper said McLaughlin seemed to withdraw this summer.

Sullivan said she noticed lately that he didn’t seem to have many other friends. She wondered whether his small size or his acne played a role.

“Kids would tease him about that,” she said.

Wackwitz said he and McLaughlin used to play video or computer games or hang out. But lately, McLaughlin usually said he didn’t want to. He also started walking home after school instead of riding the bus.

Wackwitz said he felt bad but didn’t think anything was seriously wrong. He said McLaughlin never mentioned that anything or anyone was bugging him. In particular, he said, McLaughlin never complained to him that kids at school were picking on him.

Sullivan said that McLaughlin had mentioned to her that people were picking on him but that he didn’t seem too concerned about it.

But she said there were signs that something was amiss. During one of their long chats, she recalled, McLaughlin told her that he was being tested this summer for a split-personality disorder. She said he never mentioned it again.

Others also said that teasing may have been the motive behind the shooting. However…

If Jason McLaughlin brought a gun to school because he was tired of the teasing, classmates say they can’t figure out why he targeted Seth Barthell and Aaron Rollins.

Those two boys, according to Richter, were not among the kids who teased McLaughlin.

“I think his main target was some other kid,” he says.

In July of 2004, McLaughlin pleaded not guilty under the defense that he did not intend to kill Seth Bartell and that his mental state was in question at the time. Previously a grand jury had determined that Aaron Rollins was shot accidentally by McLaughlin.

McLaughlin was to be tried as an adult. His attorney appealed but in November of 2004, the appeal was denied. (Log in info)

And after almost two years the trial is finally starting to get underway.

I’ll be keeping an eye on this one.

If anyone has any more information that I missed please let me know.

66 thoughts on “John Jason McLaughlin

  1. jim says:

    weird, at least this one will get whats coming to him.

    fucking suicidal cowards πŸ‘Ώ

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  2. Ed says:

    tis a shame. yet another youth about to be thrown in jail for life for ‘1’ stupid stupid mistake. All because of the way our law system works.

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  3. Trench says:

    Ok Edgar, it’s your lucky day. I actually allowed one of your comments because I’m curious to hear your response. Do you honestly think shooting someone in the chest then chasing them down again and shooting them through the brain is a “stupid mistake”?

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  4. Ed says:

    The fine line between one who fantasizes these things and one who acts upon them is not as big a jump as you think. . Yeah, instead of giving this kid psychiatric help and imprisoning for a reasonable number of years, lets just lock him up for life where he gets to bond with his cellmate, Gordo, whether he likes it or not (especially at night)

    And I request an unbanning. I’m not a mutant, as you carelessly assumed back in your topic about ‘cowardice’ you simply misinterpreted my question.

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  5. Trench says:

    So let another killer loose on the streets. He shot the kid in the chest chased him down and shot him through the brain. That’s not a “stupid mistake”. That’s cold blooded murder.

    And as for your unbanning…um….no.

    Back to the cornfield with you, mutant.

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  6. jim says:

    πŸ˜† you make laugh till the tears fall πŸ˜†

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  7. jade says:

    “Back to the cornfield with you, mutant.”

    that made me spew tea from my nose πŸ˜†

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  8. morpheus says:

    I wish this kid had found another venue to exprss his frustration. Teasing hurts, but it’s wrong to bring a gun to school. I wish that he like, had a punching bag or something…

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  9. Denise says:

    Let me tell you what one family member of Seth’s thinks…..

    The kid needs to go to prison, forever. Why would anyone
    want to waste our tax payers time and dollars on a lost cause?!
    Personally, I wish Minnesota had the death penalty.

    The way our wonderful law system works has allowed this little monster
    to remain in an institute since this happened. And the tax payers
    have picked up the tab.
    What about some peace for the family?! Don’t they deserve to have this come to and end?!

    The trial is starting today, and Jason has waived his right
    to a jury trial. Please hope and pray Jason goes
    prison FOREVER.

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  10. shos says:

    just so you know physch help was on the table
    they turned it down! as for locking him up, you bet they should lock him up and throw away the key!! if
    this kid can shoot a kid in cold blood at 15 what
    else is he capable of? the family members of the
    victims no longer have a son/brother/cousin/nephew/
    grandson to visit we have to visit a grave, we
    would give anything to be able to talk to our loved
    one one more time!! we would just like an honest
    answer from Jason on why he did this and not the
    bull about “I was teased “, oh boo hoo grow up you little scum bag!!

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  11. Maria says:

    Ricori is spelled Riccori.

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  12. Trench says:

    According to all the articles I’ve read it’s Rocori. My initial spelling may have been a typo.

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  13. chicka says:

    rocori is spelt like this….r-o-c-o-r-i

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  14. Rocori Mom says:

    It’s ROCORI High School… (ROckville/COld Spring/RIchmond) I stood outside that school that day for hours waiting to find out who/how many children had been shot and if my own son was alive or not. Relief turned to grief as Aaron &amp parents are friends of ours and our son’s. The trial started on Tuesday, and McLaughlin’s plead guilty to 2nd degree murder in the case of Aaron, and is pleading not guilty by reason of “mental illness” to the 1st degree murder charge for Seth. There’s no jury, as he’s waived his right to one the case is being heard by just one person… the judge. Now we wait &amp see. The victims’ families will finally have some ‘closure’. Keep them in your thoughts.

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  15. jim says:

    …and Prayers.

    I can assure you… we will

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  16. Suzie says:

    Kids do get bullied at school. Yes, it is wrong to kill in revenge for being picked on
    but, schools close their eyes to the problem.
    Shouldn’t schools look at the underlying cause as well as the outcome?

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  17. Rocori Mom says:

    Fact is, Seth didn’t pick on him, or tease him, as the defense has repeatedly stated. They didn’t find a single witness to the teasing that supposedly took place and, as Seth’s mom has said, they are cutting down her son in an attempt at a defense. Rocori does not condone bullying or teasing.

    Glad to hear the verdict today…Guilty on all counts except one–assault (he had pointed the gun at the teacher, but they didn’t find him guilty of it). I sure hope this judge is intelligent enough to know Jason wasn’t insane at the time–should know results by the end of the week.

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  18. jim says:

    Schools dont close their eyes to the problem, they are forced to focus on the greater problem… and the greater problem is not the nerdy looking kid getting laughed at in the hallway.

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  19. Rocori Mom says:

    Jim, so true… and today, the defense’s psychiatrist witness even stated that Jason may just as possibly made up the teasing in his mind–that it could never have even happened. πŸ™„

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  20. Bunny says:

    What about Jason’s family?? What if your child/friend/sibling or some one of your relation had done this terrible thing?? How would you feel that this person you love did this horrible thing?? You would NOT hate him. You would be so mad about it but what can you do?? Why does everyone want to hate??

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  21. Bunny says:

    Jim what the hell do you mean by “fucking suicidal cowards?”

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  22. Trench says:

    He’s talking about people like Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, and Jeff Weise. Cowards who took their own lives after killing rather than facing the consequences.

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  23. jaci says:

    JASON IS NO SCUM BAG AS SOME OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO HIM AS. YOU DONT KNOW HIM YOU JUST KNOW OF THE AWFUL THING THAT HE HAS DONE. ALSO HE WAS BULLIED AND UNLESS YOU WERE THERE WITH HIM EVERY MINUTE I DONT THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY OTHERWISE. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY DONT WASTE HIS LIFE AND SEND HIM TO PRISON. HE DOES NEED HELP NOT PRISON WHICH CAN JUST CULTIVATE HIM INTO A MUCH MORE DANGEROUS PERSON.

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  24. jim says:

    For his crime… he is a scumbag. A piece of shit, low life, bottom feeding, punk bitch, fuck nut, shit licking, dog’s anus who should be buried up to his neck in an ant farm and have honey poured on his scalp. A prime candidate for “feet first in the wood chipper”
    hows that, you stupid dumb ass ?
    He made up his mind to be a killer and he should learn what it means to be a victim. I hope his cell mate likes having shit on his dick. πŸ‘Ώ

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  25. Bunny says:

    :mrgreen:You sound like a piece of shit to me:!:

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  26. jim says:

    Of course I am… ask the rest of the trolls. They think so too :mrgreen:

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  27. Bunny says:

    ……and im sure you like having shit on your dick as well.

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  28. robin says:

    go Bunny, i really think Jim might be an excon with so much hatred in him!

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  29. jim says:

    yeah !! you go girl !! πŸ™„
    You got me with that zinger πŸ™„

    as for Robin’s comment, I am not ashamed to admit that I have been in jail. I was attacked by a group of guys and inadvertently broke one guy’s kneecap. I’m still not even sure that I did it because of certain events that took place.
    I spent 4 days in jail so I wouldn’t have to spend $1000 on bail and 2 years in court for assault. I should have gone to jail and very well would have if two people didn’t fuck up.

    1: the arresting officer filled out a simple form wrong.

    2: the DA filed it wrong and neglected to deliver it to my lawyer when it was requested.

    I am evidence that the court system has flaws. I should have done 6 months in jail and 2 years of probation, yet got off scott free. you couldn’t even find the case in my record because of that one piece of paper.
    Here is the problem with your argument. This goes out to all the dumb bitches who think Jason is some sort of special kid. He fucking killed two people.
    I should have done my time in accordance to my crime… so should he !
    I would not have wept if I were convicted and neither should he.
    I broke a guys knee… I’m not even sure how, but I take the blame like a man and was willing to take the appropriate consequences like a man… so should he.

    as for you trolls… if you love the inmates, keep it to yourself. Consider conjugal visits if you like but don’t try to fill me with your shit about how Jason is some sort of great guy, he’s still a fucking murderer.

    Lastly… I only hate things that should be hated. I don’t hate kittens, I hate murderers. I don’t hate other races, religions and creeds, I hate child molesters, gang bangers, and cult cronies. You get the point ? One more thing I hate are liberal minded nitwits, who think that every nice guy who commits a crime should be set free based on how nice he may have been before the crime. Fuck that and fuck you… murderers and other people who have portrayed evidence that they are not fit for society should be shot… after a good torture session.

    This message was brought to you by T.O.A.S.T
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  30. Rocori Student says:

    Jason McLaughlin is a 100% pure fucking PUSSY. Now that he knows that he is screwed he makes up an imaginary friend. Stupid Prick. I hope that gutless piece of shit rots in a cell for the next 30 some years hes going to be in the big house. I would like to personaly say that I really wish Minnesota had and used the Capital Punishment system because thats that Jason should really get. Maybe when he rots in the pits of hell he will know how bad he really screwed up….Well just talking about that heap of shit makes me sick to my stomache so im done..I feel ive expressed myself about this enough..

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  31. Tonic says:

    You shouldn’t be the one to judge who rots in hell. Just like you Jason can be forgiven for what he has done. And on the note about Jason being set free- he should be put in a facility that can help him, not thrown in jail where he will never get any help. The question is not whether he should be set free or not but where he should be locked up. The hate you have in your heart for Jason and all the other people who support him as a person – not what he did- is just as bad as the hate Jason carried. May God forgive you as he will a child like Jason.

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  32. Trench says:

    Like I said in another thread God will judge him. I just wish the state could arrange the meeting.

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  33. ROCORI Mom says:

    What in this society has caused us to hate a (then) 15-year-old boy so much? My son was
    in the same grade as Seth and Jason, and spoketo both the victim and the shooter that
    morning. He wasn’t close buddies with either, but he like the both of them as people.
    He thinks that it is a horrible thing that Seth died, but he also thinks it is a horrible
    thing that Jason is being made out to be a “monster.” It is almost 2 years later and my
    son still can’t watch the news or read the paper because of the anger it causes in him.

    Unless our last name is Bartell, or Rollins, or McLaughlin, we can’t even BEGIN to possibly
    know what truly happened in those preceeding months.

    How can we judge? I have faults of my own. Okay, so I didn’t kill anyone, but who has the
    right to judge my faults? Nobody. It is not up to me to judge anyone else.

    My son said that nobody should judge Jason unless they have actually met the boy and have
    really gotten to know him. I think we can learn from that attitude.

    This may be simple thinking, but after 2 years, I still have to try to calm the anger of
    my son. He continues to be confused by all aspects of this. There were many victims that
    day…Seth, Aaron, Jason, and many, many other kids.

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  34. Trench says:

    That’s funny. The first “Rocori Mom” has a much different opinion.

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  35. Rocori Mom says:

    Thank you Trench! I’m the ORIGINAL Rocori Mom on this message board!! Amazing–I wonder why someone has to copy my name on here πŸ˜• And to that other “ROCORI mom”, how can we hate? how can we judge? My question is, how can we not? He took the time to plan, scheme, check out security cameras, days before he decided to steal his daddy’s gun &amp hunt down &amp kill Seth!! You know, some of the biggest mass murderers i.e., Jeffrey Daumer, were such “nice people”!! Tell me he wasn’t totally insane — common sense says that murder is not a sane act! That still gives him no right to lounge in a mental hospital!

    Jason’s “Jake” didn’t materialize in “person” until AFTER Jason was in jail… he was supposedly just a voice before then. And Jason even said he didn’t shoot Seth and, inadvertantly, Aaron because of what his voice said. I’m going with the prosecution on this one. Aaron’s sister, twin brother, parents, and friends believe Jason planned this in as right a mind as a murderer could. Quite a lot of Jason’s “emerging” mental illness showed up after being already locked up (seeing “jake” and dead people).

    One more thing, what kind of asset to society will Jason ever be even if he is found not guilty by reason of insanity? Does anyone actually think he’ll be “cured” enough to be let go? Prison is where murderers are sent!! Any idea how long in a mental institution it would take to “cure” Jason? Do you want him living next door to you if/when they would decide he could be set free? Not I!! πŸ˜₯

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  36. jaci says:

    WELL IT SOUNDS AS IF ROCORI MOM AND HER SON ARE ABOUT THE ONLY ONES WITH ANY SENSE. AS TO WHAT KIND OF ASSET WOULD JASON BE TO SOCIETY, WELL WHAT ASSET ARE YOU TO SOCIETY. YOU HAVENT DONE A DAMNED THING THAT I AM AWARE OF EXCEPT BRING MORE HATE INTO THE WORLD. WAY TO GO!!!!!!!

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  37. Trench says:

    Jaci, how old are you?

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  38. Rocori Mom says:

    Oh, Jaci, when you grow up, you will understand what I mean. You don’t know me as a person I used to work in one of the Rocori elementary schools, and I know many of the students there. As to being an asset to society, maybe I should have phrased it as being a productive member of society. I do not hate, althought it seemed as such in my last post, and I do apologize for sounding as such. I do disagree with you, but do not hate. As for your not knowing what I’ve done, that’s because you do not know me–of course, if you live in the Rocori area, you just may!! And to Rocori Student, I completely understand how you must feel–I don’t know if you were there that tragic day but many of the students and staff who were still relive it.

    Back to Jaci, being an “asset”, i.e., productive member of society, means to do things like hold a job, possibly get married, raise a family, enjoy life with friends and family, and strive for the American Dream. In my book, the American Dream doesn’t include having a child shot down in cold blood while going to school, nor does it include having your child suffer for three years without even recognizing something terribly wrong and having to deal with what Jason’s parents &amp family must endure either.

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  39. robin says:

    Jim, why do you insist he take it like a man? He was a boy and is a boy. Probably more so in his head now than before the shooting.Somebody get Jim his meds!

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  40. jaci says:

    WELL I AM GROWN I LIKE YOURSELF HAVE A FAMILY OF MY OWN, HAVE A JOB, HAVE FRIENDS AND AM STRIVING FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM. TELL ME SOMETHING SHOULD JASON NOT BE ALLOWED TO GET HELP FOR HIS MENTAL ILLNESS OR IS IT JUST TO BAD THAT HE WAS DEALT THAT CARD? I AM IN NO WAY SAYING WHAT JASON DID WAS RIGHT AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT HE SHOULDNT BE PUNISHED BUT LIVING IN A MENTAL FACILITY IS NOT CAKE AND ICE CREAM. BESIDES LIVING WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS ALONE IS SOMETHING THAT HE WILL HAVE THE REST OF HIS LIFE. IT JUST MAKES ME REALLY SAD THAT SO MANY OF YOU THAT WANT JASON TO DIE OR GO TO PRISON FOR LIFE WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF HELP. TO ME THAT IS COLD BLOODED. IT IS LIKE NOT PUTTING A DEER OUT OF ITS MISERY AFTER HITTING IT WITH A CAR. DO YOU JUST WANT HIM TO SUFFER? NOT ONLY WILL JASON SUFFER BUT SO WILL HIS FAMILY. THEY ARE DEALING WITH ALL OF THIS AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE REALITIES OF THE SITUATION UNLIKE JASON. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TYPE OF PAIN HIS FAMILY FEELS. AND HOW SORRY THEY ARE FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SETH AND AARON. IF THEY COULD TAKE IT BACK THEY WOULD. AS OF RIGHT NOW LIFE FOR THEM IS A NIGHTMARE AND PROBABLY WILL BE FOR A LONG LONG TIME. I JUST WISH THAT EVERYONE WOULD QUIT THINKING OF REVENGE AND START THINKING OF SOLUTIONS.

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  41. Trench says:

    When you say mental illness you mean his case of “I’m a big faker”-itis?

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  42. jaci says:

    WELL IF THAT IS WHAT YOU THINK TRENCH. BUT LIKE I SAID YOU DONT KNOW IF THIS IS REAL OR FAKE. I GUESS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS THE TRUTH IS GOD AND EVENTUALLY I KNOW THAT HE WILL MAKE IT RIGHT. I JUST HOPE AND PRAY THAT ALL OF YOU THAT ARE ABOUT REVENGE ARE NEVER CURSED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

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  43. Suzie says:

    Jaci,

    “Thinking of solutions” It is out of the realm of our hands
    at this point. We have no vote. Remember the guy who shot at the president? He gets to go on home visits now. Our justice system is rearely
    a question of what is fair or just. We must learn how to work within our system.

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  44. Rocori Mom says:

    Jaci, you seem to confuse the word “revenge” with “justice”! We want justice for the horrific crime that Jason committed. Jason took gun safety–he knew a .22 would kill. Now, after being locked up for over a year, he’s not only hearing a voice, it’s multiple voices, along with seeing and smelling people/things that aren’t there. Speaking of movies, ever see the Sixth Sense — “I see dead people”??

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  45. jim says:

    Robin: If he took it upon himself to brandish a gun like a man, he should take his punishment like a man. This “bat my eyes and call me a boy” bullshit stops as soon as the gun was placed in his packpack (or however he carryed it in that morning). You dont get to be a boy anymore once you commit a crime.

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  46. robin says:

    Well Jim thats like telling a child who was raped or mollested that they can no longer be a child then, isn’t it? I sure don’t agree with that either. Especially if they are mentally disturbed.Or do younot think that happens, that they wanted it nad get what they deserve? never mind don’t want your opinion on it, it isn’t on the subject.

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  47. jim says:

    No jackass… Its not like telling a rape victim that they are no longer children. Because Jason is not the fucking victim. He shot the victims… one of which, point blank in the face.
    However what you have been saying here is like telling the rape victim that the person who raped them was just a little wacky and after a short term of drug treatment should be set free again.
    What the hell is wrong with you ? he is the criminal, he is the murderer, and he is due for a long term in prison.
    You coddling these psychos is going to have one effect and one effect only. One day, someone you love will be murdered… (as much as I despise you, god forbid that such a thing happen) But if so, I would love to hear your opinion on the murderous victim then.

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  48. KuJoe says:

    It would be nice if the “voices” in his head would convince him to hang himself with his shoelaces… that would make the world a better place.:twisted:

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  49. robin says:

    Interesting, Jim. I believe what goes around comes around, so come what may to you also, thanks and havea blessed day

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  50. jim says:

    πŸ™„

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  51. Rocori Mom says:

    If I remember right, and I’m sure I’ll be corrected if I’m wrong, the kid didn’t say “I see dead people” when he saw the ones hanging in the school… did he? The defense’s psychiatrist contends today that Jason didn’t specifically say that either. Nobody said he did! He just used the scene in the movie to describe the “hanging dead”.

    Dr. Hackett also stated today that she hasn’t spoken with Jason since earlier in the year when he went off his meds. Doctors at the Minnesota Security Hospital in St. Peter, where Jason’s been held state they found it odd that his mental illness symptoms seem to have gotten better so dramatically since he has been off the medications.

    And on my final note of the day… “If McLaughlin is found to have been insane at the time of the shootings, he would be committed to a secure mental facility. If he is found not to have been insane, he will be sent to prison after sentencing. Klumpp (the prosecutor) has argued that McLaughlin is feigning mental illness to enable him to say at a security hospital, where he is able to play video games and order pizza.”

    Who’d have figured? πŸ™„

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  52. jim says:

    I dont recall “hanging dead people” in the movie… He said “I see dead people” in his own bedroom.

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  53. Rocori Mom says:

    Jim, I think it was later in the movie.. they were in a school or something. I barely remember it–and it wasn’t a huge scene–but they were in old-time clothes.

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  54. jim says:

    OK, I remember now. It was when he was in the school play. If Im right… he saw someone hanging and told his teacher that he knew that something bad had happend at the school.

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  55. ssea says:

    πŸ’‘
    Hmmm… just went throught and read all the comments on this case.

    First off, to Jim – you sound like a nice guy who has had some bad experiences and it comes out in your “writings” which is why people here have attacked you. I would try to not express yourself as you “first” did and you will have no problems — and I wish you luck in the future.

    Jaci – you sound like a good friend to the shooter and his family. Everyone involved is a victim in one way or the other.

    I, too, have sympathy for the shooter, but regardless of why he did it or how “mental” he was at the time, he still did it! Somewhere no one taught him that he cannot kill and if you do the things you see all the time on TV , movies, et cetera, there are real consequences for all. Afterthefact, we cannot do anything about those consequences.

    I think this case was more “temporary insanity” than anything else. Personally I think a lot of the blame can be put on society today, as we know it. The violence our kids are exposed to every day that neutralizes them to any feelings where violence is concerned is the problem. Examples of this are everywhere! We do not react anymore to violent acts ’cause they are so commonplace – in the news, on video games, in movies, et cetera. We watch these things and don’t react to the horror that they should instill in us. When our children are exposed to this violence from little on up, then do some awful act, we wonder why. Well, folks — the reason is simple. We have conditioned them to not think this is anything unnatural or horrible. You can’t expect someone to have a steady diet of “violence” then think it is anything abnormal ’cause it is normal today. We are warping society and our kids.

    As for the “teasing” and what role it played in the final outcome, as I am sure it was a factor, would not have led to this violent act if all the other conditioning, society factors were not so commonplace ( meaning the violence we are exposed to in our daily routines). Also, this anything goes, no rules/ no discipline lax parenting is also a factor. Our kids don’t have any boundaries anymore, are given too much, and grow up with this “me” attitude.

    How many “supposedly normal kids” have to do horrendous acts before society and parents wise up to what damage is being done by life as it is today – no values, no rules, no responsibility, no God! We need to find a way to stop this acceptance of any type of language, behavior, et cetera. Can we reverse things at this stage of the game? That is the question!

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  56. Trench says:

    The blame society cop-out. I was wondering how long it would take to see that. If parents didn’t want their kids exposed to all this violence as you say then they should do a better job. We are all responsible for our own actions. To put the blame on “society” is to try and take blame off the killers. And again it was proven in court that he was not teased by Seth Bartell. Not to mention I am so tired of that excuse. A lot of people were teased in school. I was too. But the vast majority of us didn’t kill anyone.

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  57. ssea says:

    😳
    Oops! There seems to be another factor in this saga! It appears that, unless he is making this all up, Jason really does have schizophrenic leanings and a family history. His family seemed not to be aware of what was really taking place in Jason’s mind and were not reading properly his activities – one being making homemade bombs, which was in preparation for his future career leanings.
    And the one other factor of today that I didn’t directly name and a really big factor in behavior today, is our internet usage and the rudeness, hostility, and other anti social bullying displayed everywhere on the net. This behavior spills over into “reality” when those displaying this mentality leave this fantasy world. This is a new arena for our pyschologists of today.

    Below is a link to the evaluation report on Jason McLaughlin.

    Add together the psychological changes happening in Jason, along with society today as we know it, and you will get the full picture.

    http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/12203913.htm

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  58. ssea says:

    TO TRENCH ➑ It is not a “blame society” copout, it is a society take note and let’s do something about what we know are factors in what is happening in today’s society and to our kids!

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  59. Trench says:

    ssea, you do realize that McLaughlin was determined to be sane yesterday right?

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  60. ssea says:

    :mrgreen:

    Well, trench, the way I see it is – it doesn’t matter that they said he is “sane,” as he obviously isn’t or he wouldn’t have done this horrific act! I think they are wrong!

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  61. Trench says:

    So by that logic then every killer is insane.

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  62. Rocori Mom says:

    ssea, we’ve all read that report days ago. That is one opinion, of one doctor, who has not even talked with Jason this year! Do some more research on the case, please. Fact is, he knew right from wrong and chose to do the wrong thing–illness or no illness!

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  63. jim says:

    ssea,
    I like how you quickly addressed my personality disorder to keep it at bay πŸ™„
    A little about me… I have had good and bad experiences. Matter of a fact I have experienced nearly everything I have desired in life so far. With good comes bad and I have zero regrets because my life is one that most people long for. But none of my experiences have made me bitter or filled with angst. I don’t let bad times reflect on future experiences or control my levels of fear and/or hatred. I have more control over my emotions than most people and am not shy about anything what-so-ever.
    The people who “attack me” usually do so because I remind them of how idiotic their thought patterns are… even if I hadn’t done so directly. They are upset that more people do not agree with their ‘hug a llama, kiss a tree, save a murderer’ personality defunct in which they (foolishly) display here at the Trenchcoat. I am an easy target because (next to Trench) I am one of the most outspoken regulars here… have been for around 3 years now. So I tend to be the person that the Trolls attack. They do not however expect me to snap back and retort because these careless nitwits are used to chat rooms where a simple complaint can have your opponent removed. I am only removable by Trench and he tends to like when I tell off morons like these… Hence the birth of T.O.A.S.T. :mrgreen:
    How you express yourself dear ssea is your own personal issue I express myself as you have read and shall as long as I kill little bunnys for food and dream about kittens (use Stephen Lynch for the kitten reference.) I do think your ‘be nice to the bully – pull out your semi-liberal thoughts and plug away’ gimmick was cute.
    did you look up Stephen Lynch ? his song about Kittens ? this would help you understand what I think of cute things 😈

    Now for the subject at hand… You feel sympathy for the shooter ? exactly what makes him worthy of sympathy ? because he is pretending to be crazy ? because he wants a way out of the prison sentence he rightfully deserves ? He shot and killed 2 humans… people who could have been one of yours or mine. can you please join us and put this into perspective ? I understand your desire to find humanity in every aspect of life… but he is the cause of death now… he lost his humanity and is deserving of nothing so we here at the Trenchcoat offer no sympathy to this murderer.

    …And I offer none to his sympathisers either.

    oh and since I have to make fun of you now… whats up with the screenname ? is that a studder or a lisp ?

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  64. Rocori Mom says:

    πŸ˜† Thanks Jim, I had to look up Stephen Lynch &amp the kitten song myself. So funny!! Still trying to figure out what T.O.A.S.T. means though (something to do with Trolls I imagine) 😈

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  65. jim says:

    That song cracks me up… I sing it at work and get funny looks 😎 πŸ˜†

    T.O.A.S.T = The Organization Against Stupid Trolls :mrgreen:

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  66. ssea says:

    to Trench:shock: and Jim:mrgreen::

    I never said I do not think the murderer should “not” be punished – re-read my quote

    “I, too, have sympathy for the shooter, but regardless of why he did it or how β€œmental” he was at the time, he still did it! Somewhere no one taught him that he cannot kill and if you do the things you see all the time on TV , movies, et cetera, there are real consequences for all.

    Afterthefact, we cannot do anything about those consequences.”

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