The Virginia news shooting was not about race


By now we’ve all heard about the terrible tragedy that happened in Roanoke, Virginia, where former WDBJ newscaster Bryce Williams, real name Vester Lee Flanagan II, shot and killed fellow newscaster Alison Parker, 24, and her cameraman Adam Ward, 27. Flanagan faxed a manifesto to ABC News before taking his own life while being pursued by police. In it, Flanagan said that he committed the murders because of the church shooting in Charleston, South Carolina…

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them.”

“As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!”

Of course the Facebook knee-jerkers went off in their usual outraged state asking why weren’t more people upset that Flanagan wasn’t being labeled a racist like Dylann Roof is. The answer is simple because in reality this shooting had nothing to do with race. Much like others who commit atrocities like this he was just another entitled loser who thought the world owed him something. The church shooting wasn’t a catalyst it was just an easy way for Flanagan to justify his cowardly actions to himself. He was already plenty dangerous.

In his manifesto he proclaimed admiration for not only the Columbine shooters but also the Virginia tech gunman…

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin.'”

Doesn’t sound like he’s too racist if he admiration for two white kids and an Asian guy but I digress. He has a lot in common with those 3 cretins. All three of them were cowards who were jealous at the fortunes of others whether it be monetary, social status, or some other perceived indicator of success. Flanagan was no different. He made complaints against Parker and Ward claiming discrimination and racism. Parker and Ward were white while Flanagan was black and gay. However the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission dismissed these claims. So instead of thinking his poor job performance could be anything but his own fault he shifted the blame to imaginary discrimination. Also just like his cowardly heroes he took the coward’s way out too by taking his own life rather than facing prosecution.

It’s also my belief that if it wasn’t the church shooting it would have been some other peripheral event that would have set him off. He was the proverbial powder keg waiting to go off…

He continues: “I can remember one day in particular… leaving the courthouse… feeling overwhelmed… confused… even some fear. But by golly I knew I HAD to fight. … They truly f—-d with my life and caused an awful chain of events.” He says he even killed his cats in a forest “because of them.”

Tragically it seems that Flanagan was almost destined to commit some kind of violent act against those he perceived as persecuting him. If it wasn’t a gun it would have been a knife, or a bomb, or a car or any other implement of violence he could have gotten his hands on.

Instead of focusing on race we should be focusing on the two young lives that held so much potential that were selfishly ended by a violent coward.

Thanks to Aaron for the tip.

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  1. edrebber

    Every one of these mass shooters is hopped on psychotropic pharmaceuticals.

    1. Trench Reynolds

      Not true even remotely.

      1. edrebber

        • Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

        • Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

        • Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

        • Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

        • Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

        • Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

        • Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

        • Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

        • A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

        • Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

        • A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

        • Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

        • TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

        • Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

        • James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

        • Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

        • Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

        • Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

        • Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

        • Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

        • Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

        • Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

        • Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

        • Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

        • Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

        • Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

        • Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

        • Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

        • Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

        • Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

        • Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

        • A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

        • Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

        • Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

        • Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

        • Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

        • Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

        • Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

        1. Trench Reynolds

          1. Way to copy and paste from such a unbiased and trusted site like Infowars.

          2. You said all but Dylan Klebold, Cho Seung Hui, and Adam Lanza just to name a few were on no medications.

          3. Look up correlation does not imply causation. Here, I’ll help.

          4. Unfounded allegations like these stigmatize mental health treatment and prevent people from getting the help they need.

          5. I’ve been on Paxil for a decade. Not only have I not killed anyone it literally saved my life.

          1. ronni

            I get so sick of this crap. The reason these people kill other people is because they feel entitled to. The killers’ feelings are SO MUCH more important that anything else in this world. I got news for all of them. Everyone has bad times. Everyone faces obstacles. Everyone has challenges, mental, emotional and physical, economic, educational…it’s called life. You’re supposed to deal with it and do the best you can in your particular circumstances, not scapegoat others who are trying to deal with their own issues.

          2. Trench Reynolds

            Thank you for bringing some much needed common sense to the conversation.

          3. edrebber

            “The reason these people kill other people is because they feel entitled to. The killers’ feelings are SO MUCH more important that anything else in this world”

            And psychotropic drugs alter a persons feelings and perception of reality. That’s why people take them.

          4. edrebber

            I don’t have first hand knowledge of any of this, obviously I would be referencing another source.

            Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old shooter who killed 20 students and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14 in Newtown, Connecticut, had been prescribed several psychiatric drugs, including Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine, the Business Insider reported. “Fanapt is one of a many drugs the FDA pumped out with an ability to exact the opposite desired effect on people: that is, you know, inducing rather than inhibiting psychosis and aggressive behavior,” Business Insider reported.

            The New York Times has reported Cho Seung-Hui was on a prescription medication, and authorities have said he was confined briefly several years ago for a mental episode. They also have confirmed that the “prescription drugs” found among his effects related to the treatment of psychological problems.

            Dr. Peter Breggin, a prominent critic of psychiatric drugs and founder of the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology, said even if Cho wasn’t taking psychiatric drugs the day of the shooting, “he might have been tipped over into violent madness weeks or months earlier by a drug like Prozac, Paxil, or Zoloft.”

            Eric [Harris] and Dylan Klebold had both been in anger-management classes. Anger-management classes equal antidepressants. Unfortunately, Dylan Klebold’s medical records have been sealed, so there’s no way of knowing what if anything he was on

            Side effects don’t affect everyone.

          5. ronni

            Such an easy copout…blame the drugs. That saves us the trouble of delving into their upbringing and wondering what we are doing as parents that results in people who think they are entitled to get whatever they want, and harm others when they don’t get it. Last decade, we blamed videogames and rap music.

          6. edrebber

            It’s a cop out to not to hold the pharmaceutical industry accountable. It’s ridiculous not to suspect drugs or food as a possible culprit.

          7. Trench Reynolds

            Yes it is a cop out because there is no scientific peer reviewed evidence that backs that up. It’s all FUD from people who want to point a finger at an imaginary bogeyman rather than hold people responsible for their won actions.


          8. edrebber

            Fear was your justification for the secret vaccine courts when you quoted a supreme court decision. You are the one pointing a finger at an imaginary bogeyman rather than holding people responsible for their won actions.

            It was recently reported that members of the CDC destroyed peer reviewed research pertaining to the link between autism and vaccines. That evidence must be damning, otherwise it would have been used to exonerate vaccines instead of being destroyed.

          9. Trench Reynolds

            Citation please.

          10. edrebber

            You cited the following ruling from Supreme court justice Scalia. This is nothing but fear mongering and blackmail from the pharmaceutical industry.

            as Justice Antonin Scalia noted in the majority decision in Bruesewitz v. Wyeth — to ensure the future of vaccine availability in the U.S. At the time of the Act, hundreds of injury lawsuits were piling up against vaccine manufacturers, causing them to abandon manufacture of major vaccines and threatening immunizations for the entire country.

          11. Trench Reynolds

            So just more conjecture and conspiracy and no real evidence.

          12. edrebber


          13. Trench Reynolds

            Yet you’re not providing any evidence to the contrary.

          14. edrebber

            Yes I did. It was reported that CDC destroyed research that linked vaccines to autism. Scalia’s, ruling, that upholds the secret vaccine courts, is based on a fear that the vaccine industry will stop making vaccines if they are held accountable for vaccine industry in open court.

          15. Trench Reynolds

            Who reported it?

          16. edrebber

            CDC researcher William Thompson,

          17. Trench Reynolds

            First link on a Google search for CDC researcher William Thompson,


            I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.

          18. edrebber

            What does this quote have to do with the CDC destroying evidence? Stop deflecting. The only reason to destroy evidence is to conceal it from public view.

          19. Trench Reynolds

            It shows that Thompson’s own words are being distorted by those who want to prove a vaccine to autism link where there isn’t one. No evidence was destroyed/ It see,s more the anti-vaxxers are the ones who are deflecting.

          20. edrebber

            Thomson said it was destroyed.

          21. ronni

            Reported where, and by whom? Personally, I think it would be very difficult to fake all those peer reviewed studies that proved no connection.

          22. edrebber

            They destroyed the studies that showed the connection. You’ve got it backwards. If the research was defective, then it would be a valuable tool to use to discredit the theory. The only reason to destroy research is to hide a truth.

          23. ronni


            No. Just…no.

            The culprit is the perpetrator.

          24. edrebber

            You’re piling on other causes that I never cited.

          25. Trench Reynolds

            And heavy metal in the 80s ad 90s.

          26. Trench Reynolds

            What I’m saying is that the sites that are posting that information are biased and suspect at best and have an anti-psychiatry agenda. Infowars itself is a known conspiracy site which doesn’t make it the most factual site in the world. As I said when you can find be peer reviewed scientific evidence that these drugs caused mass killings then get back to me. Until then it’s something more suited for the Weekly World News.

          27. edrebber

            And I am saying the same thing about your information. Most of it is kept secret out of fear that people won’t use the drugs anymore.

          28. ronni

            They all probably drank milk as children, too.

          29. edrebber

            Completely irrelevant to the discussion.

  2. edrebber

    A former coworker and former manager at WDBJ-TV said Vester Flanagan, the man who shot and killed two journalists on live television here, was an angry man and less-than-stellar reporter who misconstrued innocent happenstances as racist slights.

    Flanagan complained to the EEOC that he was subjected to racial harassment when, while on assignment, he was intentionally told to pass by Cotton Hill Road. Flanagan also complained about a lone watermelon at a summer picnic. The EEOC dismissed the complaint and a lawsuit that Flanagan filed was also dismissed.

    Even in his last moments, Flanagan continued to complain of mistreatment by his employers, noting on Twitter that he had filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

    1. ronni

      Well, your complaint has no basis when you shoot people. And it’s even more moot when you kill yourself.


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