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The Virginia news shooting was not about race

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By now we’ve all heard about the terrible tragedy that happened in Roanoke, Virginia, where former WDBJ newscaster Bryce Williams, real name Vester Lee Flanagan II, shot and killed fellow newscaster Alison Parker, 24, and her cameraman Adam Ward, 27. Flanagan faxed a manifesto to ABC News before taking his own life while being pursued by police. In it, Flanagan said that he committed the murders because of the church shooting in Charleston, South Carolina…

“Why did I do it? I put down a deposit for a gun on 6/19/15. The Church shooting in Charleston happened on 6/17/15…”

“What sent me over the top was the church shooting. And my hollow point bullets have the victims’ initials on them.”

“As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE …(deleted)!!!”

Of course the Facebook knee-jerkers went off in their usual outraged state asking why weren’t more people upset that Flanagan wasn’t being labeled a racist like Dylann Roof is. The answer is simple because in reality this shooting had nothing to do with race. Much like others who commit atrocities like this he was just another entitled loser who thought the world owed him something. The church shooting wasn’t a catalyst it was just an easy way for Flanagan to justify his cowardly actions to himself. He was already plenty dangerous.

In his manifesto he proclaimed admiration for not only the Columbine shooters but also the Virginia tech gunman…

Later in the manifesto, the writer quotes the Virginia Tech mass killer, Seung Hui Cho, calls him “his boy,” and expresses admiration for the Columbine High School killers. “Also, I was influenced by Seung–Hui Cho. That’s my boy right there. He got NEARLY double the amount that Eric Harris and Dylann Klebold got…just sayin.'”

Doesn’t sound like he’s too racist if he admiration for two white kids and an Asian guy but I digress. He has a lot in common with those 3 cretins. All three of them were cowards who were jealous at the fortunes of others whether it be monetary, social status, or some other perceived indicator of success. Flanagan was no different. He made complaints against Parker and Ward claiming discrimination and racism. Parker and Ward were white while Flanagan was black and gay. However the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission dismissed these claims. So instead of thinking his poor job performance could be anything but his own fault he shifted the blame to imaginary discrimination. Also just like his cowardly heroes he took the coward’s way out too by taking his own life rather than facing prosecution.

It’s also my belief that if it wasn’t the church shooting it would have been some other peripheral event that would have set him off. He was the proverbial powder keg waiting to go off…

He continues: “I can remember one day in particular… leaving the courthouse… feeling overwhelmed… confused… even some fear. But by golly I knew I HAD to fight. … They truly f—-d with my life and caused an awful chain of events.” He says he even killed his cats in a forest “because of them.”

Tragically it seems that Flanagan was almost destined to commit some kind of violent act against those he perceived as persecuting him. If it wasn’t a gun it would have been a knife, or a bomb, or a car or any other implement of violence he could have gotten his hands on.

Instead of focusing on race we should be focusing on the two young lives that held so much potential that were selfishly ended by a violent coward.

Thanks to Aaron for the tip.

BC researchers say school shooters were paranoid not bullied

What mass murderers have in common:

Inside the mind of a mass killer: Intense paranoia drives killers not a detached sense of reality, study finds:

Former reader of this site Kimveer Gill

Former reader of this site Kimveer Gill

A group of researchers from the University of British Columbia led by psychologist Donald Dutton recently published a study that said some of North America’s most infamous school shooters committed their crimes out of paranoia and not any actual slight or mistreatment.

The team looked at the writings of killers Eric Harris, Cho Seung Hui, Kimveer Gill and Anders Breivik. We’re going to leave Breivik alone because he was not a school shooter, the study itself looked at these four as mass killers but I’m only interested in the first three.

Here’s some of what Dr. Dutton had to say…

“They become and remain fixated and obsessed with rejection by what they see as an elite in-group, whom they see as having unfairly achieved success,” Dutton and his colleagues write in a compelling paper just published in the journal Aggression and Violent Behavior. “Instead of transcending the rejection, they formulate plans to annihilate the transgressors, which they justify as vengeance for the transgressions made against them.”

Now let’s see what the cowards in question had to say…

From Gill…

If people were making your life a living hell, wouldn’t you be hurt emotionally? How come no one ever talks about those mother fucking jocks and preps whose fault it is. Oh no. Heaven forbid. We can’t possibly say that. Why does society applaud jocks? I do not understand. They are the worst kind of people on earth. And the preps are no better. They think they’re better than others, but they’re not.

Gill was 25 at the time of the Dawson College shooting and he was still talking about high school stuff. Gill was nothing more than a Harris-worshiper, or as I call them mutants. Friends that grew up with Gill say that due to his size he was not bullied. Gill is nothing more than a copycat.

From Cho…

Your Mercedes wasn’t enough? Your golden necklaces weren’t enough? Your trust fund wasn’t enough? Your vodka and cognac weren’t enough? All your debaucheries weren’t enough?

Cho’s problem wasn’t with jocks but people who he considered ‘rich’. Cho must have been born without a sense of reference because he was going to an expensive university in Virginia Tech, owned an Apple computer, and had enough money to buy at least two new handguns. That’s not exactly poor. Also, Cho mentioned Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in his video manifesto as being ‘martyrs’. Just another copycat like Gill.

Now let’s go to Coward Prime, Eric Harris…

Everyone is making fun of me because of how I look, how fucking weak I am, and shit, well I will get you all back, ultimate fucking revenge here. You people could have shown more respect, treated me better, asked for more knowledge or guidance more, treated me more like a senior, and maybe I wouldn’t have been so ready to tear your fucking heads off. … Same thing with all those rich snotty toadies at my school. Fuckers think they are higher than me and everyone else with all their $ just because they were born into it?

See, he hated jocks and rich kids. Again back in 1999 not everyone had a computer and they were pretty expensive. His cohort Klebold drove a BMW and they both lived in the suburbs. Their families weren’t exactly hurting financially.

Oh, but I hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already. “Trench, Harris even says that he was made fun of, isn’t that bullying?” To put it bluntly, no. First off if I was just made fun of at school that would be considered a good day. Secondly, since Harris is a paranoid psychopath anything that is said to him he could consider being made fun of. Lastly, please allow me to expound on a theory that I put out there a few years ago.

Here’s what I think set Harris off. Harris wanted to be with the in crowd so much that it hurt. When he approached someone from the so-called in crowd he was either rejected outright or he perceived that he was being slighted by them. I think that one incident like this is what set Harris off. The fact that he was already engaging in anti-social criminal behavior probably didn’t help.

I also think that Cho and Gill probably had some type of similar situation that was a flash point for them as well which made them easily identify with Harris hence the copycats. None of them were bullied.

Dr. Dutton says as much…

Overall, this analysis suggests many of the media’s cliches regarding mass killers appear to be wrong. They were bullied? “This group greatly exaggerates the negativity of their treatment, as reported by third-party school peers,” the researchers note, adding that their writings contain few references to specific experiences of being a bullying victim.

Yet with all the evidence against them and other school shooters being bullied lesser minds will still contend that is the real reason behind school shootings rather than paranoid jealousy of megalomaniacs.

You too could own Cho’s calculator

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Va. Tech killer Cho’s calculator for sale, renewing debate on ‘murderabilia’:

So some scumbag who owns a scumbag website has gotten a hold of a Texas Instruments TI-83 Plus calculator that was once owned by Virginia Tech gunman and ultimate coward, Cho Seung Hui. It can be yours for a mere $3,700. Cho sold the calculator on eBay in order to buy guns and ammo for his cowardly bloodbath.

In my opinion murderabilia should be spoken in the same terms as child porn. Outside of a museum or an educational setting these murder junkie trophies have no intrinsic value.

You can tell me about how the people who buy this stuff work at soup kitchens and love puppies but you’d be full of crap. We all know the type of cretin that buys this stuff. The loser who thinks he’s some kind of pseudo-badass whose best days are years behind him. Kind of like this guy I used to go to high school with who would talk way too much about Charles Manson. These people are nothing more than murder groupies who will use their death trinkets to try to impress the teenagers that hang out with them.

Cho’s moronic play performed in The Netherlands

Script by shooter Seung-Hui performed:

Some theater group in The Netherlands performed the play “Richard McBeef” that was poorly written by Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui. I dare you to read it and not get a migraine from it.

Anyway if you think that the group performed the play was trying to teach some lesson forget it.

The theater group calls school shootings “acts of social resistance.”

No, they are acts of mass murder pure and simple.

Cho’s mental records released

Virginia Tech statement on the release of Cho mental health records:

The psychiatric records of Cho Seung Hui were released by Virginia Tech after receiving permission from Cho’s family.

If you really need to see them they’re here and here. (PDF files)

Personally I didn’t see anything in them that we didn’t already know. Unless I missed it the records do not contain why Cho’s court ordered psychiatric treatment was never followed up on. To me that’s the big question in all of this.

Wisc. gun dealer sells to unholy triumvirate

Green Bay gun dealer again tied to mass shooting:

Green Bay based internet gun dealer TGSCOM Inc. not only sold a gun to Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui and magazines and a holster to NIU gunman Stephen Kazmierczak but now it’s been revealed that they sold a Glock magazine and a magazine loader to Pittsburgh gym gunman George Sodini.

I’m all for second amendment rights and of course I believe ultimate responsibility for the killings lies with the respective cowards but something needs to be done to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable.

If I can ever figure out how to do that I’ll win the Nobel frickin’ Prize.

Cho’s mental records found

Va. Tech Shooter’s Mental Files Turn Up:

Removal Of Cho’s File Called Accidental:

I’m sure you’ve heard by now that the mental records of Virginia Tech coward Cho Seung Hui have turned up.

Former director of the counseling center at Virginia Tech claims he inadvertently packed them away with his personal files when he started a new position elsewhere on campus.

Supposedly the records are relevant to see if the counseling center followed up on the court ordered treatment of Cho. In my opinion only if they planned on having Cho committed would the massacre have been prevented. Something tells me that probably wasn’t going to be a part of his treatment plane.

Cho e-mails released

Va. Tech Campus Paper Posts E-mails To and About Gunman Online:

The Virginia Tech student newspaper, The Collegiate Times,has made public e-mails concerning Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung Hui. The e-mails were originally released only to the families of the victims and Collegiate Times editor-in-chief David Grant won’t say how the paper came to be in possession of them. Some are criticizing the Times for making these public stating it’s disrespectful to the families but the Times has not made any family information publicly available.

The e-mails between Cho and Virginia Tech faculty can be seen here. E-mails between faculty members about Cho can be read here.

In my opinion there really isn’t anything new in these e-mails that we didn’t already know. They further show just how selfish Cho was and how he blamed his failures and shortcomings on others.

He had trouble speaking in public yet he chose to become an English major. He was failing some of his courses but he blamed that on the professors. The professors offered him every opportunity to help him bring his grades up but he kept wanting to do things his way. They offered him advice on how to get over his problems with public speaking. They were legitimately concerned about his mental health. No one can say that Cho was a victim.

He lived his life the same way he took so many others. An egotistical and selfish punk who thought it was all about him with no regard for anyone else but himself.

Much ado over a gun dealer

Gun dealer used by Va. Tech shooter sold supplies, holster to NIU killer:

A lot of people are making a big deal over the fact that the gun shop that sold a gun to Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui also sold supplies to NIU gunman Stephen Kazmierczak.

While it’s a bizarre coincidence I think it’s a non-story.

While Cho did buy one of his firearms from this online dealer based in Green Bay, Wisconsin Kazmierczak only bought empty magazines and a holster from the dealer. Both Cho and Kazmierczak passed mental health background checks at the time of their purchases. That seems to be the bigger story to me especially for Cho who was court ordered to undergo treatment.

Close but no cigar

School shootings show shortcomings of American society:

This is an editorial from a student at the University of Maine about how the signs were ignored from school shooters Asa Coon and Cho Seung-Hui. It’s a really good article up until this point…

Apparently, both of these tragedies, along with countless others, point to flaws in not just the school system, but in society as well. Are Americans so blind and selfish that they cannot learn from the past, and reach out to those who feel insignificant and hopeless? Maybe if we stepped outside of our comfort zone and lent a helping hand to “troubled” people like Asa Coon and Seung-Hui Cho, we could prevent school violence.

So close.

What the question should be is are American kids so blind and selfish that they think that mass murder is the way to solve their problems? Instead of “society” stepping out of its comfort zone maybe it should be parents that step out of their comfort zones and be parents again and not just baby makers. Maybe then their kids wouldn’t be so “troubled”.