BC researchers say school shooters were paranoid not bullied

What mass murderers have in common:

Inside the mind of a mass killer: Intense paranoia drives killers not a detached sense of reality, study finds:


Former reader of this site Kimveer Gill

A group of researchers from the University of British Columbia led by psychologist Donald Dutton recently published a study that said some of North America’s most infamous school shooters committed their crimes out of paranoia and not any actual slight or mistreatment.

The team looked at the writings of killers Eric Harris, Cho Seung Hui, Kimveer Gill, and Anders Breivik. We’re going to leave Breivik alone because he was not a school shooter, the study itself looked at these four as mass killers but I’m only interested in the first three.

Here’s some of what Dr. Dutton had to say…

“They become and remain fixated and obsessed with rejection by what they see as an elite in-group, whom they see as having unfairly achieved success,” Dutton and his colleagues write in a compelling paper just published in the journal Aggression and Violent Behavior. “Instead of transcending the rejection, they formulate plans to annihilate the transgressors, which they justify as vengeance for the transgressions made against them.”

Now let’s see what the cowards in question had to say…

From Gill…

If people were making your life a living hell, wouldn’t you be hurt emotionally? How come no one ever talks about those mother fucking jocks and preps whose fault it is. Oh no. Heaven forbid. We can’t possibly say that. Why does society applaud jocks? I do not understand. They are the worst kind of people on earth. And the preps are no better. They think they’re better than others, but they’re not.

Gill was 25 at the time of the Dawson College shooting and he was still talking about high school stuff. Gill was nothing more than a Harris-worshiper, or as I call them mutants. Friends that grew up with Gill say that due to his size he was not bullied. Gill is nothing more than a copycat.

From Cho…

Your Mercedes wasn’t enough? Your golden necklaces weren’t enough? Your trust fund wasn’t enough? Your vodka and cognac weren’t enough? All your debaucheries weren’t enough?

Cho’s problem wasn’t with jocks but people who he considered ‘rich’. Cho must have been born without a sense of reference because he was going to an expensive university in Virginia Tech, owned an Apple computer, and had enough money to buy at least two new handguns. That’s not exactly poor. Also, Cho mentioned Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold in his video manifesto as being ‘martyrs’. Just another copycat like Gill.

Now let’s go to Coward Prime, Eric Harris…

Everyone is making fun of me because of how I look, how fucking weak I am, and shit, well I will get you all back, ultimate fucking revenge here. You people could have shown more respect, treated me better, asked for more knowledge or guidance more, treated me more like a senior, and maybe I wouldn’t have been so ready to tear your fucking heads off. … Same thing with all those rich snotty toadies at my school. Fuckers think they are higher than me and everyone else with all their $ just because they were born into it?

See, he hated jocks and rich kids. Again back in 1999, not everyone had a computer and they were pretty expensive. His cohort Klebold drove a BMW and they both lived in the suburbs. Their families weren’t exactly hurting financially.

Oh, but I hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth already. “Trench, Harris even says that he was made fun of, isn’t that bullying?” To put it bluntly, no. First off if I was just made fun of at school that would be considered a good day. Secondly, since Harris is a paranoid psychopath anything that is said to him he could consider being made fun of. Lastly, please allow me to expound on a theory that I put out there a few years ago.

Here’s what I think set Harris off. Harris wanted to be with the in-crowd so much that it hurt. When he approached someone from the so-called in-crowd he was either rejected outright or he perceived that he was being slighted by them. I think that one incident like this is what set Harris off. The fact that he was already engaging in anti-social criminal behavior probably didn’t help.

I also think that Cho and Gill probably had some type of similar situation that was a flashpoint for them as well which made them easily identify with Harris hence the copycats. None of them were bullied.

Dr. Dutton says as much…

Overall, this analysis suggests many of the media’s cliches regarding mass killers appear to be wrong. They were bullied? “This group greatly exaggerates the negativity of their treatment, as reported by third-party school peers,” the researchers note, adding that their writings contain few references to specific experiences of being a bullying victim.

Yet with all the evidence against them and other school shooters being bullied lesser minds will still contend that is the real reason behind school shootings rather than paranoid jealousy of megalomaniacs.

The Dawson College Massacre game


‘Despicable’ game based on Dawson College shooting:

As with Columbine and Virginia Tech, some tasteless soul took it upon themselves to make a game based on the Dawson College shootings that took place 4 years ago in Montreal. The game was called Dawson College Massacre and was hosted on the bastion of good taste Newgrounds. Which in my opinion is 4chan for flash gamers.

The game was developed by a Newgrounds user who calls himself Virtualman. The goal of the game is to storm Dawson College as Kimveer Gill and kill as many people as possible. I don’t doubt that this Virtualman is a mutant based on his statements to the Canadian press…

“I am not quite sure why I made it, I have been studying these school shooters a long time now and I just see how people want to just push the whole subject under the rug,” he writes.

“I don’t want to say I am 100% sympathetic with killers like this because obviously what they’ve done is pretty sick. But you can most DEFINITELY see the path they took which lead them to commit such a crime.”

The reason people want to push the subject under the rug is in order to keep it from happening again in the future. And if you can tell me what drove Kimveer Gill to storm Dawson college and kill Anastasia De Sousa and injuring others please tell me because as far as I can tell Gill was just a basement dwelling loser who had no trauma in his life that caused him to snap.

Virtualman did at least have the decency to pull the game off of Newgrounds after he found out that Anastasia De Sousa’s family was offended by the game. However, this is the internet and once posted nothing ever goes away.

I’m all for free speech even in this ‘nothing is sacred’ era and even though I believe that Virtualman had every right to post his game and no law in Canada or the U.S. could make him take it down it just amazes me that how much human decency some people lack. Games like this and SCMRPG remind me of games I heard about back in the 80s that were traded on the underground. In one such game, you played a Nazi soldier who would round up Jews to send them to the oven then use their gold fillings as in-game currency. I hate to Godwin this post but yeah, games like this that glorify school shootings are really just as bad.

Kimveer Gill fan page on Facebook

Kimveer Gill fan club pulled from Facebook:

It seems that either the Kimveer Gill mutants, who I will now refer to as gill-men, or some asshole who wanted to stir up some shit has been busy on Facebook.

Briefly on Facebook the other day the Kimveer Gill Fan Club page popped up. It was listed as “The place to be if you think Kimveer Gill was a hero.”

For those of you who may not remember who Kimveer Gill was he was a 25-year-old loser from Montreal who not only lived with his parents but opened fire at Dawson College in Montreal wounding 19 and killing Dawson student Anastasia De Souza before taking the coward’s way out himself. Gill did not even attend Dawson and had staked out other schools as well.

In the interest of transparency Gill even commented on this site. I banned him from the site long before his attack.

Anyway the Facebook fan page had 86 members at the time it was shutdown so even if it was just some jackhole who started it I’m sure there were some gill-men among its membership.

I have yet to find any credible reports on whether or not Facebook pulled the page or if it was pulled by its originator.

A lot of people tend not to believe me when I say there are ‘fans’ and ‘worshipers’ of school shootiers yet here we are.  I get the feeling this will just be the first of many of these types of groups on Facebook if there aren’t more already.

Coroner’s report on Kimveer Gill

Dawson shooter in ‘fragile’ mental state before getting gun licence:

Quebec coroner Dr. Jacques Ramsay released his report on Kimveer Gill, the gunman behind the Dawson College shooting and the death of 18-year-old Anastasia de Sousa.

Basically what it comes down to is that Kimveer Gill’s mental state came from excessive drinking. The drinking caused depression and suicidal thoughts. Gill did seek treatment but with a doctor’s blessing he stopped taking his meds. The doctor recommended rehab for Gill but he never went.

Doctor Ramsay also stated the obvious by saying was socially inhibited and had low self-esteem.

So to sum it up Gill was an alcoholic, socially inept, loser. And a coward.

More Dawson evidence released

Police seized apology note from Dawson shooter’s bedroom:

Or as I like to call it, more proof that Kimveer Gill was the ultimate loser.

Montreal police seized a simple note of apology, the address of Villa Maria high school and five boxes containing 242 bullets from Kimveer Gill’s bedroom hours after he shot one student dead and injured 20 other people at Dawson College last September.

“Sorry Mom and rest of family…” read the note, dated Sept. 13 at 2:22 a.m. and written on note paper.

Investigators also found a handwritten note in which Gill praises Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, the two students who shot and killed 12 classmates and a teacher at Colorado’s Columbine High School in April, 1990, before killing themselves.

Police also found 174 horror films on DVD and a disc entitled, “Shooting sprees ain’t no fun without Ozzy and friends LOL” in the CD player.

Just a loser living in mommy’s basement who thought he was a tough guy.

Gill scouted other schools

Dawson College killer scouted other schools:

According to Canadian officials Kimveer Gill scouted other schools before picking Dawson College for his rampage. According to the article Gill had scouted 3 other schools. Those schools being Universite de Montreal, Vanier College and a Laval high school. It’s unknown why he settled on Dawson.

Police recovered a notepad from his car that contained hand-drawn sketches of routes leading to all four schools, Cmdr. Richard Dupuis said.

On the page with directions to the Universite de Montreal, Mr. Gill had scribbled the words “too big.”

“There are indications he may have considered other schools,” Cmdr. Dupuis said. “Did he go inside (them)? We don’t know. They were rough plans he had designed, but nothing too detailed. Just what roads to take to get there.”

It has been known that Gill did enter Dawson College weeks prior to his assault. So it’s a not a stretch that Gill probably did enter the other schools.

10/24/06 From the Mail Sack

Every once in a while I get the opportunity to talk to a reporter. Whenever I tell them that there are “fans” or sympathizers of school shooters they sometimes find it hard to believe. Well wonder no more you journalistic types. Here is an e-mail I received from someone calling themself Gill. I’m assuming it’s in reference to Kimveer Gill, the Dawson College shooter from Montreal. This is one of the more mild e-mails I’ve received…

Why do you start a website called trenchcoat if you’re not sympathetic to why these kids do school shootings? You call Gill’s pain “adolescent.” I guess it’s okay to do it if you’re George Bush, huh? Nobody calls a military funeral “juvenile,” to belittle it, do they? Fuck arguing with you, I just don’t know why you bother with it at all.

This is a popular tactic with the mutants, comparing school shootings to the war in Iraq. That’s like comparing the proverbial apples and oranges. Hell, that’s more like comparing apples with chickens. Now I’m not here to debate the merits or the lack thereof of the war in Iraq however typically in a war zone two separate factions are armed and shooting at each other. At Dawson College Gill was nothing more than a coward shooting at unarmed people. And usually in a war the goal is some greater good. In Gill’s case the goal was only death. I not only call his “pain” adolescent and juvenile I also call it selfish. What about the pain of the family of Anastasia DeSousa? You know, the promising young girl that Kimveer Gill killed. What about their pain. I think their pain is a lot more important than some gun wielding psychopath. Kimveer Gill was a 25-year-old living with his mommy. He was a loser in life and an even bigger loser in death.

A tout le monde

Megadeth defends music Dawson College gunman loved:

I am a huge Megadeth fan. I didn’t even know that Kimveer Gill had referenced one of my favorite Megadeth songs in his lunatic ravings. I was pissed when I found out. I can only imagine how pissed Dave Mustaine was…

In his blog posted on vampirefreaks.com, Gill, who described himself as a huge Megadeth fan, had singled out the song À Tout le Monde, urging others to listen to it. He wrote in his blog that the song helped convince him to go on his shooting rampage that killed one and injured 19.

Megadeth likes to perform the song À Tout le Monde in Montreal because the title and lyrics are in French, Mustaine said in an interview before the concert.

The song’s chorus says: “A tout le monde/ A tous les amis/ Je vous aime/ Je dois partir,” which means: “To everyone/ To all my friends / I love you / I have to leave.”

Mustaine was deeply offended when he found out Gill referred to the song in his online plans for Dawson.

“I was so angry that this guy would use my song, and that he would try and turn that beautiful song into something ugly and nasty,” he said. The singer wrote the song about his mother, who died when Mustaine was young. “I had a dream that she came back to me, and said ‘I love you.’ That’s the whole song.”

The song is in memory of the living, Mustaine explained. “It’s for those who lost their lives, and it’s a gift to those who are in the process of healing.”

There was no question in Mustaine’s mind that Megadeth would perform the song in Montreal during their show Wednesday night. “[Gill] is not going to control us from the grave.”

I don’t always agree with Dave Mustaine’s opinions but I have more respect for him now than I ever did.

Blame only one

Kimveer Gill — perhaps he was just evil:

Kimveer Gill is not society’s victim:

The first article is from a right-wing Canadian website. Wait, there are right-wingers in Canada? Just kidding Canucks. And the second article is from Kimveer Gill’s high school English teacher. Both articles are along the same lines.

First from the right-wing article. While I don’t agree necessarily with how they got their point across I do agree with their point…

More importantly, Kimveer Gill will never be blamed for the actions of Kimveer Gill. The notion that Gill was just an evil man and that he and not the gun registry, violent video games and the Goth culture were responsible for the carnage will be rejected by the masses as being too simplistic; too George Bush-like. In a society where many people can’t recognize the evil of Islamofascism, it is too much to expect people to recognize the evil of what was once Kimveer Gill.

In the end, all that was responsible for the actions of Kimveer Gill was Kimveer Gill.

And now the article from Gill’s teacher, one Ms. Freda Lewkowicz…

But the litany of blame omitted someone, and there’s only one person who should be blamed for Kimveer Gill’s school rampage on Sept. 14.

Only one angel of death can dance on the head of this pin of sorrow and that is Kimveer Gill.

He is responsible for shooting 20 students and killing 18-year-old Anastasia De Sousa. He should not be permitted to become a victim.

It’s great to see that some people still actually believe in personal responsibility.

Forces of evil in a bozo nightmare

Gun control won’t protect us from the losers:

This is actually an article about Canadian gun control but I couldn’t resist these quotes…

Here he is again, the loser with a grudge and a gun slithering up from the basement of a middle-class home where he fermented his immaturity, anger and resentments to full and deadly potency “interacting” with like creatures on the Internet.

His mom says he was “a good son.”

The neighbours’ comments — the banality of this would be screamingly funny were it not for the horror of the event — amount to this: He was quiet and kept to himself.

Aren’t they always.

His resentment and anger are perfectly understandable.

He’s a loser and losers spend their lives being angry and resentful.

It’s one of the reasons they’re losers. Life is something that happens to them. They aren’t something that happens to life.

They aren’t achievers.

Worst of all, he knows he’s a loser, but failing the courage or will to do something about it and actually change, he decides to write his name in the pages of our times with gunfire, and paint a final statement with the innocent blood of students — young people working toward successful futures.

His victims are everything he is not.

The ultimate proof he’s a loser: His final statement, his final moments in life are desperately unoriginal. Just another loser in a long list of losers. The perpetrators of Columbine and Taber and all the others.

He was 25 years old.

Who among us is still so much an angry adolescent at 25?

He’s a loser baby, and somebody killed him.

Don’t be a loser.