Earlier this week, a 13-year-old girl was arrested for allegedly planning a school shooting against Tonkawa High School in Tonkawa, Oklahoma. I wasn’t really even going to post about this story because it’s unclear how close the suspect was to carrying out the attack. While reports say that she did have a hit list and her family did own guns it’s not exactly clear if she had unrestricted access to these guns or not. Not to mention the fact that females rarely ever carry out a school shooting. I’m not being sexist, those are just the statistics.
Having said that I did feel the need to post this story because the headline I was greeted with by KFOR was “You don’t think something like that’s going to happen.” That was a quote from another student at the school. As I have said many times in the past small towns like Tonkawa are exactly the places where school shootings can happen. Some of us can name the schools where the more violent shootings took place, but can you name the municipalities? I mean places like Nickel Mines, PA, Littleton, CO, Newtown, CT, Red Lake, MN, DeKalb, IL, and so on.
That’s not to say that every town in small town America is due for a school shooting, but we can’t have this attitude that any place is immune to such violence. If we continue to have that attitude we’ll continue to ignore the signs of imminent violence. Continue reading “Another case of “It can’t happen here.””
Normally, I don’t like to post the mug shots of school shooters and plotters anymore, because it gives them some of the attention that they’re usually craving. However in this case, I mean come on, just look at him. How could I not?
A Facebook post on December 10th read as follows: “So, I might be buying a AR-15 with a laser red dot on it and (expletive) semi-auto too .22 caliber. Just waiting on the background check.”
On December 11th, Bagemehl’s Facebook post reads as follows: “Someone needs to do a school shooting around here. It would be funny as (expletive).”
Then on December 12th, Bagemehl’s Facebook post reads as follows: “My AR-15 style rifle, my 715T Mossberg semi-auto rifle with 300 rounds with red dot laser sight.” The post was accompanied by two photos of the rifle in its open case.
Bagemehl also commented on a separate post with two photos of an assault rifle and said “Ima live by the gun, die by the gun, Ima die holding a gun” (sic).
Maybe background checks should include a check of social media, or at least a proper check of diction.
Not surprisingly, Bagemehl was fond of watching videos of Columbine, along with videos of ISIS beheading their victims. He claimed that the videos were stress relievers for him so he wouldn’t shoot people, and that they ‘never get old’.
Like most of these cretins he appears to have an over-inflated sense of self-worth…
When investigators interviewed Bagemehl, the criminal complaint says he “spontaneously stated ‘(expletive) are calling on me every time I post a gun on Facebook.’” The defendant stated “he didn’t care what ‘other’ people thought and that it would be ‘funny’ if someone did a school shooting in Sheboygan.”
According to police, Bagemehl’s mother had told them back in January that her son was schizophrenic and bipolar. He is said to have told police that he ‘might’ be off his medication.
Sadly, even with all he weapons and ammo police are said to have found he’s only looking at three years behind bars. I wonder if the defense will be that it was ‘just a joke’, or that he has Asperger’s.
I’ll post more on this as details become available, and as time allows.
“Gosh, it’s kind of strange to think it could happen here. These things just don’t happen in Berkley. I am glad they were able to deal with it quickly,”
As I’ve said before there were a lot of towns that though it couldn’t happen there. Towns like Littleton, Red Lake, Newtown, Paducah and Jonesboro just to name a few. While these towns and cities are infamous now they’ve never been bustling metropolises.
I’m not saying that every small town is destined to have a school shooting but if you think it can’t happen where you live you’re just fooling yourself.
I thought long and hard about posting this story. I thought either way if I did or did not post anything about it someone would be offended so I decided to post anyway.
Starting in 2004 I posted about a school shooting plot that was set to take place at Marshfield High School in Marshfield, Massachusetts. Two kids were arrested. I thought one was guilty and one was innocent. Both were convicted and served their time. I thought and still think that Tobin Kerns was innocent. Conversely I thought and still think that Joe Nee was guilty. The weekend prior to the Thanksgiving holiday Joe Nee took his own life.
I’m not here to rehash history. Also I take no pleasure in Joe Nee’s death. What I’d like to do today is talk about suicide.
Suicide is a byproduct of mental illness. Believe me I know. In my youth I attempted suicide a number of times. If you’re having thought about harming or killing yourself it means you need help. No matter what anyone says there is no shame in reaching out for that help. After being suicide obsessed for so many years I reached out and I’m thankful that I did. Also if you think that no one is going to miss you that’s just not true. Your suicide will have negative impacts on friends and family members for years to come and they might never be the same. I wouldn’t want that and I know most of you wouldn’t either.
Again it can’t be said enough. There is no shame in seeking professional help for a mental health issue. It may be the difference between life and death, not only for you but those around you as well.
There’s a trial going on over in England right now where a teenager is accused of not only plotting to attack his school but also theaters and mosques.
While reporting on this the Daily Mail calls the suspect a bullied school boy in the above headline then goes on to describe him not only as a self-avowed neo-nazi but also as a racist, a fan of the English Defence League, and a mutant. Well they didn’t use the M word per se but did add that he was a fan of Columbine.
Yeah, if you’re going to be a neo-nazi racist you’re probably going to draw some negative attention to yourself so if this kid was bullied he more than likely brought it upon himself.
When large publications use the word bullied in a headline like this it’s not only a pathetic grab for attention but it perpetuates the myth about school shooters being bullied when the majority of them were not.
UPDATE 11/3/2013: While I expect this kind of thing from the Daily Mail it seems the much vaunted BBC has gotten into the act as well. Here’s the headline they went with recently.
That headline is supposed to catch your eye and I would assume most people would take the headline at face value without further reading the article where they would find this quote.
The defendant told the Old Bailey he had been called a Nazi, a fascist and a racist, at school.
That’s because he is all of those things. If you publicly embrace these kind of ideas you’re inviting abuse on yourself and you don’t deserve any sympathy.
Back towards the end of May 17-year-old Grant Acord was arrested for allegedly plotting an attack against West Albany High School in Albany, Oregon. Six bombs were seized from his home after police received a tip from another student. The bombs seized were Molotov cocktails, pipe bombs, Drano bombs and napalm which I’m going to assume was of the homemade variety. Some of his classmates said that he would randomly talk about bombs for no apparent reason the most recent incident coming a week prior to his arrest.
Not surprisingly investigators say that he modeled his plot after the Columbine attack. They say that he identified with the Columbine cowards Harris and Klebold and thought that he could make ‘improvements’ on their handiwork. This does officially classify him as a mutant in my opinion. For those of you that are new to the site mutant is the term I use to describe people who sympathize, identify or outright idolize school shooters, specifically the Columbine scumbags.
Of course Accord is said to have the pre-requisite journals. Let’s look at a selection from them shall we?
At about 11:10, he would begin blasting music from the car while walking toward the school, a napalm firebomb in one hand and a duffel bag in the other.
‘Drop duffel. Light and throw napalm, unzip bag and begin firing,’ the notebook said. ‘Cooly state: ”the Russian grim reaper is here.”
The line is apparently a reference to the 2003 film Bad Boys II.
The plan went on: ‘Throw a smoke bomb prior to walking in. Proceed to enter the school, then shoot and throw bombs throughout the school. Kill myself before S.W.A.T. engages me.’
Another dumbass who thinks life is like the movies, bad movies at that.
Police said they found printouts of a website listing the weapons used by the shooters at Columbine High School and a list of items to use in an attack, including a black trenchcoat, a belt with skull and crossbones buckle, wool socks, various explosive devices and a propane tank.
Several items were listed on a page titled I NEED. They include explosive materials, ammunition, a Hi-Point 995 rifle and a Mossberg 500 pump-action shotgun.
What? No TEC-9 so he could be like one of his cowardly heroes? I’m surprised.
While no motive or specific targets have been made public yet we already have the excuse. Bullying you say? Maybe Asperger’s? None of the above. In the wake of his arrest his mom has come out and said that he is mentally ill because of PANDAS.
No, not those kind of pandas. PANDAS is supposedly an onset of OCD that is caused by a strep infection. According to Wiki PANDAS stands for Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcal infections and has not yet been officially recognized as a disease only a hypothesis. Last time I checked OCD doesn’t cause people to go on murderous rampages. Think of all that blood they may get on them.
No, what we have here is just another loser probably blaming his own failures on every one else himself with the help of enablers around him.
UPDATE 7/6/2013:This is a very good article about a mom whose son has PANDAS whose exact words were when she heard of Grant Acord’s excuse “I kind of said, are you kidding me?”
Acord can distinguish right from wrong, his attorney Jennifer Nash said, but she added that his obsessive-compulsive disorder caused the former West Albany High School junior to be unable to follow the law.
“Our position is my client was suffering from a mental disease or defect that made him unable to conform his behavior to the requirements of law,” she said.
UPDATE 5/14/2014:Acord has entered plea of guilty which could see him held until his 25th birthday. In exchange for the plea prosecutors have dropped attempted murder charges. His mom is still going on about how her precious snowflake has teh PANDAZ.
I’m in the process of trying to catch up on stories that I’ve fallen way behind on due to other stories taking precedence or because of my real life responsibilities and this is one of them. It deals with 18-year-old Sammie Chavez who was arrested for plotting a school shooting attack against Bartlesville High School in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. Chavez was arrested on the same day as the Newtown tragedy but before that shooting took place. You can see my original post on Chavez here.
Not too long after his arrest back in December Chavez’s mother came out to the media saying that her son would never plan any such kind of violence.
Jessie Chavez said her son has symptoms of possible mental illnesses – including depression, bipolar disorder and multiple personalities – and had been seeing a therapist. She believes that the thought came during a fleeting swing in emotions.
“Deep down, I don’t think my son would have done this,” she said. “That’s not my son. My son laughs and makes jokes. He’s always pulling pranks.”
If her son does in fact have deep seeded mental issues such as MPD then she has my sympathy however let’s take a look at the evidence.
Police allege that Sammie Chavez attempted to recruit other students Dec. 12 to help him lure people into the school’s auditorium, where he said he would open fire after chaining the doors and placing bombs to detonate when police arrived.
A court affidavit says Chavez used school computers to research pipe bombs and the Columbine High School mass shooting.
Police later seized a Marlin 99 M1 .22-caliber semiautomatic rifle from his home, as well as journals, notes, drawings, photographs of students cut out of a newspaper, two swords, a set of brass knuckles and marijuana.
This sounds far from prank to me.
However this does open the argument about mental healthcare and the rights of the individual in this country. If someone is criminally insane and a potential danger to the public around them there’s not a whole lot anyone can do until that person actually acts on those impulses.
UPDATE 9/24/2013: Earlier today Chavez was convicted of planning to perform an act of violence. He was acquitted on the conspiracy charges. He’s looking at 30 months behind bars.
UPDATE 11/14/2013:Chavez was sentenced to 30 months behind bars after the sentence was recommended to the judge by a jury. He will also be credited for time served. Seems a little light to me but if he truly does have mental illnesses I hope he can get the help he needs before he acts on these violent impulses.
In the wake of the Newtown tragedy President Obama entrusted Vice President Biden with heading up a gun control task force. Now before you get your hackles up this post is neither about politics nor gun control so save it for your Facebook. Anyway Vice President Biden should have done better screening on some the task force’s members.
One of the members is one Thomas Nee, head of the Boston police union and President of the National Association of Police Organizations. Thomas Nee is also the father of Joe Nee. Nee was convicted back in 2008 for plotting an attack against Marshfield High School in Marshfield, Mass. But wait, it gets better.
Nee wasn’t the first person to be arrested for the plot. That would be Tobin Kerns. Nee himself went to police to implicate Kerns in the plot. It wasn’t until an outcry in the community that Nee was arrested. To this day Tobin Kerns is one of only two people who I believe were unfairly convicted of plotting a school shooting.
As the story goes Nee was a known Columbine sympathizer going as far as wearing a t-shirt with the Columbine cowards Harris and Klebold on it that said remember the heroes. Thomas Nee had even thrown his son out of his house for unknown reasons and was taken in by the Kernses. All the evidence found in the plot was found in the room that Nee was staying in. I’m not going as far to say that Nee received special treatment because of his dad but if it walks like a duck. He even served less time than Kerns.
The last time we heard from Joe Nee he was trying to get his conviction overturned by the Massachusetts Supreme Court. He was not successful. Local rumor had it that Nee was trying to get his conviction overturned so he could become a Boston cop. The same city where his dad just happens to be the head of the police union. Not only would that be blatant nepotism but he would be basically letting a dangerous psychopath into a job where he’s given guns and power. Not the smartest move in the world.
Let’s also not forget about Thomas Nee’s other son Edward Nee. He was arrested back in 2011 for allegedly crashing a party, punching a man in the face, kicking the man while he was on the ground and held a girl by the throat and punched her in the face. At the time of that arrest he was out on bail for allegedly breaking into cars.
My point is how does Tom Nee keep getting these lofty positions when his sons are criminals and he supposedly tried to get one of them on the same police force he works at where he happens to be head of the union? I’m not saying he’s a dirty cop but a lot of his past actions tend to fall on the shady side.
In wake of Friday’s tragedy In Newtown a lot of people were left asking how can a tragedy like this be prevented, in the majority of cases they are. For example on prior to the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary an 18-year-old named Sammie Chavez was arrested for allegedly plotting a school shooting at Bartlesville High School in Bartlesville, Oklahoma.
Chavez was arrested early Friday morning on charges of threats to kill which is a felony in Oklahoma. According to local police Chavez allegedly tried recruiting others in to assisting in his plot and threatened to shoot them if they did not assist. They say he planned to have the auditorium chained shut then begin shooting then he would detonate bombs when the police arrived. Reports also say that Chavez had told a teacher that he had recently purchased a .45. Other students supposedly told police that they saw Chavez researching Columbine. It’s also been reported that he was trying to obtain diagrams of the school as well.
So while we’re praying and thinking of the victims in Newtown let’s also pray for and thank the countless number of investigators and law enforcement that stop tragedies like Newtown from happening in the first place.
I received the following e-mail from a mutant who was arrested and convicted of plotting to shoot up his school some years ago. Normally I would have no problem posting which mutant it came from but I have redacted his name because it seems to me that he is seeking attention.
Hello Trench, you had mentioned my case a long with my name a few years ago on your web site. I tried to shoot up (school) in (place), and I had friends keeping track of these web sites for me. I was released in 2009, and why it has taken me this long to respond to you I am not sure.. But anyways, I don’t think your any better then the teenagers you frequent on your web site. You’re in your 40’s, calling people mutants.. Sick people at that.. And what I don’t understand is your constant usage of school shootings to promote your boring web site. I guess I would just like to understand that. Some of the so called “mutants” that you post here on your mutated old man web site, are very lost and sick, and cannot find the outlets that are appropriate. I’d like to call you a mutant. You sit and rant on about lost hopeless teenagers with their mostly theoretical school plots.. What kind of life is that? Stop being so harsh. These are kids. Get a life old man.
That was followed up by this Facebook message…
Eww.. Just as I thought.. You are an old nasty man. Probably a pedophile too.. Sent an email to you via your web site regarding my case a few years ago. Check it out.
First off it’s too bad you’re out because it sounds like your ‘incarceration’ had no effect on you whatsoever.
Secondly you’re right. These kids are sick. Not sick in a way that they can be treated but sick in the serial killer way. And don’t give me that crap that these kids have no outlets or resources. Kids today have infinitely more resources and outlets then when I was that age. Which brings me to my next point. When I was in school I was one of these kids. I was an outcast and bullied violently which included concussions, broken bones and a separated shoulder. But where I differ from those kids is that I didn’t obsess over mass murderers and plot to shoot up my school. Things are black and white in my world where no matter how bad things get you don’t turn to killing as a solution. And that’s what’s wrong with a lot of this generation’s kids. They have no moral compass and are so spoiled they think everything is about them. A bunch of selfish emotional marshmallows who resort to cowardly acts of violence instead of using their heads to solve their problems or overcome their shortcomings. As far as school shooting plots being theoretical they are only theoretical until they become school shootings. Luckily the law compensates for that. Don’t want to go to jail? Then don’t plan mass murder.
Lastly, you’re not the first person to call me a pedophile and I doubt you’ll be the last. I won’t say that this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black but it’s usually the pedophiles I post about that call me that. Just sayin’.